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14452 M1 bayonet with scabbard 60-6 KS on ricasso
14863 M1 bayonet with scabbard. 60-6 KS on ricasso. Scabbard body is an early Howa Industries marked example with coarser than normal fiberglass cloth. The scabbard throat has been typically marred but the gear logo is still clearly visible although much of the detail was ground away.
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12352 Turkish Specific solid machined hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. Machined hilt ersatz bayonet of uniquely Turkish design. The blade, crossguard and the shape of the hilt are identical to the German made Turkish pattern M1916 ersatz bayonet. It differs only in the construction of the hilt itself which was machined in a single piece from a solid block of steel. The blade is retained with 2 rivets through the tang inserted into the hilt. The base of the blade traps the crossguard in place against the front of the hilt. The pommel block pin found on the stamped sheet steel "grips" of the standard M1916 ersatz bayonet is noticeably absent as solid construction of the hilt leaves no need for it. The crossguard bears the same "dimple" as that on the standard M1916 to provide clearance for the tip of the cleaning rod when the bayonet is mounted on the M1890 or M1903 rifles. This particular bayonet has it's "quillon" shortened and reshaped as evidenced by the obvious lopsided handwork visible in the pictures. The narrow, unfullered blade bears a false edge on the top and comes to a "spear" point. No other example of this bayonet has been observed or published anywhere else. OTB REF #11-26 PUBLISHED EXAMPLE.
12369 BACKWRAPPED type Pressed Hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. Fullered blade shortened, otherwise unaltered. FOR GEW 88 and GEW 98 rifles. OTB REF #47-2602
12372 Caste hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. FOR GEW 88 and GEW 98 rifles. OTB REF #47-1024 Hilt characterized as being differentiated from other cast hilt models by an additional conventional style sideways cleanout hole through its hilt. It may further be differentiated by the sharp edges around the butt of the pommel with it's small "beak" having a distinct tip as opposed to be more rounded as in very similar hilt designs. Unfullered blade shortened but otherwise unmodified. PUBLISHED EXAMPLE.
12374 Caste hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. FOR GEW 88 and GEW 98 rifles. OTB REF #47-1212 PUBLISHED EXAMPLE Characterized by thick false crossguard, sharp beak, raised reverse lug catch aperture and 2 stage muzzle ears. Original Imperial German unit mark "23.A.B.?.?" designating a command element of an artillery brigade to the best of my knowledge.
12375 Caste hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. FOR GEW 88 and GEW 98 rifles. OTB REF #47-1034 Hilt characterized by having 2 stage muzzle ears beginning from middle of hilt extending up and "quillon" starting the same place extending down. "Beak" is rounded off. Unfullere blade shortened but otherwise unmodified.
12376 Cast steel hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. FOR GEW 88 and GEW 98 rifles. OTB REF #47-1032. 2 stage muzzle ears begin from middle of hilt extending up and "quillon" starts the same place extending down. "Beak" is rounded off and the reverse side of the release catch is finished flush with the contour of the pommel. Rectangular clearout hole is located on the backstrap. Fullered blade has been shortened but otherwise unmodified. PUBLISHED EXAMPLE.
12398 Pressed Hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard OTB REF #47-2402434 PUBLISHED EXAMPLE. Characterized by a semi flattened pommel butt with a sharp nose, contoured finger edge, 2 pommel block pins spaced 9mm apart. 1 tang pin mounted 28mm back from the front of crossguard with varying positions observed relative to the finger edge of the hilt suggesting a similar situation to that mentioned above relating to the crossguard pins. Reverse lug catch is 17.5mm long. Fullered-purpose made shortened blade. New crossguard brazed into original position. Wide thick machined or forged Export Pattern crossguard. Mortise slot shortened by brazing.
12400 Export pattern conversion of Pressed Hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard OTB REF #47-2032342 Fullered-purpose made shortened blade. New crossguard pinned into original position. Narrow thick forged export pattern crossguard. Mortise slot shortened by plugging with a piece of steel secured with a pin.
12403 S98/05nA bayonet with scabbard converted to export pattern and again CONVERTED FOR M1 GARAND 44-4331F PUBLISHED EXAMPLE. S98/05nA converted to M1935 then converted again for use with US M1 Garand rifles by adding a conversion plate to the previously installed high export pattern muzzle ring. Blade shortened and blade profile narrowed. Smooth Turkish replacement grips with no flashguard and retained with other than German screw type fasteners recycled from other model bayonets. Thin wide stamped export pattern with conversion plate for US M1 Garand rifles pinned on.
12773 M1935 "Leafspring" bayonet with scabbard. 14mm wide fuller in blade. OTB REFERENCE #12-140
12774 Riveted hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard for GEW88 + GEW98 OTB REF#47-3312 Shortened fullerd blade. Hilt characterized by stamped smooth steel grips with an irregularly shaped depressed groove in each side that contacts the tang of the blade inside of the hilt so no internal tang spacers are required. The grips are affixed over the tang by 2 dome headed rivets and one dome headed rivet fastening the grips between the tang and concealed internal pommel block. The pommel block has 2 large rectangular extensions and one small round extension at the very rear end. These extensions run along each side of the pommel block and fit through corresponding holes in the grips and are peened, staked or welded over after the grips are installed to secure the rear half of the hilt. The two rectangular extensions are situated forward of the release catch and the small round extensions occupy the small spot between the release catch and the pommel butt. All of these extensions are located to the sides of the mortise slot proving that they are NOT pins or rivets as they would obstruct the mortise slot if they were inserted all the way through the hilt from side to side. The crossguard is made of stamped steel with OVULAR muzzle ears and is equipped with a rearward swept quillon.
12862 M1916 Ersatz bayonet with scabbard. Turkish specific model made in Germany. OTB REFERENCE #11- 10. Crossguard with "step" and "dimple" in its original configuration. The quillon is marked with a five pointed star and crescent formed by an outline stamp. German FRAKTUR V inspection mark intact on pommel.
12869 Pressed hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard for GEW88 and GEW98. OTB#47-2544 PUBLISHED EXAMPLE. Unfullered-purpose made shortened blade, otherwise unaltered. Has correspondingly shortened FAG scabbard
13013 M1935 Leafspring bayonet with scabbard. OTB REFERENCE #12-140. Variant with 14mm wide fuller in blade.
13279 Export pattern Ersatz bayonet with scabbard. OTB REFERENCE #47-230261: Fullered-purpose made shortened blade. New crossguard brazed into backset position. Wide thin stamped export pattern crossguard.
13321 Pressed hilt ersatz bayonet and scabbard. Blade shortened otherwise unmodified . For both GEW1888 Commission Rifles and GEW98 series rifles. OTB REF#47-2412 PUBLISHED EXAMPLE.
13551 M1935 bayonet with scabbard. Converted Serbian M1880 Mauser-Milanovic bayonet.
13759 M1935 LONG pommel bayonet with scabbard. RIVET retained grips.
13881 Pressed hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard. OTB REF # 47-2554 Shortened unfullered blade but otherwise unaltered and ready to mount on GEW88 Commission rifles as well as GEW98 series rifles.
14068 M1935 Slant Pommel bayonet with scabbard converted to M1 Garand. OTB REF# 12-261.5. PUBLISHED EXAMPLE. In addition to the M1 conversion on this rarer type of M35, this bayonet has a crescent moon mark on the pommel between the release button and the actual butt end. This is something I have only noted on older Ottoman bayonets and may suggest this model is actually not an M1935 variant but a much earlier production bayonet from the Ottoman Empire. Research continues and additional information would be very welcome if you have any.
14444 M1935 "Leafspring" bayonet with scabbard. Scarce round pommel type.
14707 Turkish re-issued Serbian M1899 bayonet with scabbard. Bayonet remains unaltered as it already happened to fit Turkish rifles. Original rivet retained grips intact and Turkish AS.FA, Reverse K and serial number added to the hilt. Blade is sharpened.
14753 Pressed Hilt ersatz bayonet with scabbard in M5 configuration for M1 Garand. Steel MKE made scabbard configured like a US M8A1 scabbard. Scabbard has damaged throat but remains serviceable.
14902 Turkish re-issued British P1903 bayonet. Turkish numbers added include the distinct Osmanlica numeral for 4 positively identifying the markings as Turkish.
14919 Turkish re-issued British P1903 bayonet converted from P1888. SANDERSON SHEFFIELD 5/01. Turkish numbers added include the distinct Osmanlica numeral for 4 positively identifying the markings as Turkish.
15198 M1916 Ersatz bayonet with scabbard. Turkish specific ersatz made by the Germans and bearing an Imperial German Fraktur V inspection mark intact on the pommel. They are usually overstamped with a Crescent. The scabbard is a Turkish conversion with an Australian Lithgow small button throat mated to the body of a shortened German S98/05 scabbard.
15302 M1935 bayonet with scabbard. AS.FA on pommel. Blade remains unsharpened. Grips with unslotted screwbolts in split nuts. A few minor ships in the grip but otherwise in abnormally good condition.
15341 P1907 bayonet with scabbard. Turkish re-issued full length bayonet with Osmanlica serial number on the crossguard. Originally a JAC 3/16 issue piece with a 1924 rehab date so had to have been sold to Turkey between 1924 and 1928 when the Osmanlica script was discontinued. Scabbard is just a surplus Australian Mangrovite that was added to the bayonet and the grips are ill fitting replacments with the rear grip nut not quite threading to the grip screw.
15345 M1890 bayonet. Full length with Tughra intact. No post 1928 markings. Blade remains unsharpened. Initials "HIK" carved in left grip.
15467 Japanese T30 bayonet with scabbard converted to M1935 by Turkey. In WWI
Turkey faced both Russian and British troops armed with Japanese T30 and T38
rifles with T30 bayonets. This one lacks any trace of British markings which
makes me believe it was captured from Russina troops. When found these are
usually mis-identified and a converted British P1907. The fast way to recognize
them is the wide backstrap of the tang and the Tokyo Arsenal stacked cannon
balls mark peeking out from under the crossguard which is a standard Turkish
M1935 crossguard. There are a total of 5 of these known to exist and each of
them is different in one way or another.
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UNITED STATES (Includes any Civil War era Confederate
13124 M1873 TROWEL bayonet. GUARANTEED ORIGINAL. Tip slightly worn and almost no bluing left but the patent marking is abnormally clear.
13157 Leather gripped M4 bayonet/Fighting Knife with M8 scabbard. Imperial bayonet has had the crossguard marking defaced. BM Co. scabbard is a genuine M8 with the short belt loop frog and no hook. The pommel is an M3 knife pommel with the correct staking on the tang and no provision for mounting on a rifle. The blade has also had the profile of the false edge altered. These were made from spare or possibly rejected parts and sold commercially during WWII and afterwards.
13338 M4 bayonet with M8 scabbard. UTICA bayonet with leather grip and no plastic washers. Scabbard is correct M8 with short frog and no belt hooks. Grip is missing half of one leather washer.
13394 M1819 HALL triform socket bayonet. Good condition and guaranteed correctly identified and original. Has the distinctive stepped mortise slot bridge.
13725 M4 bayonet with scabbard. RUBBER GRIPPED Rework for the Korean War. No significant markings remain but some faint ones are still visible on the pommel.
13996 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard and leg tire. BOC bayonet. PWH scabbard. Blade sharpened but not ground. Otherwise very good condition.
14167 M7 bayonet with M10 scabbard. BOC
14168 M7 bayonet with M10 scabbard. BOC
14170 M7 bayonet with M10 scabbard. BOC
14173 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. BOC
14178 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. IMPERIAL
14179 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. IMPERIAL
14180 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. IMPERIAL
14181 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. BOC
14182 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. BOC
14183 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. BOC. Blade improperly sharpened but not ground.
14188 EICKHORN COMMERCIAL US M7 bayonet with scabbard
14231 M1866 Winchester triform socket bayonet. Small crack on top of socket (pictured) and areas of rust and pitting on blade.
14398 M1868 Russet Leather SWORD Frog marked "ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL 1904" and a small "PC" on the front and "C.G." on the back. Thanks to my friend Ralph Cobb at www.worldbayonets.com for identifying this. Ralph has posted an excellent write up of the frog and it's history here: http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/United_States__19th_Century_/us_19th_century_2.html#m1868_sword_frog There is typical scuffing and wear consistent with normal use and some of the stitching is popped around the belt loop closure but the rest remains solid and the leather is still strong and mostly pliable.
14518 M1 bayonet with M7 scabbard. PAL - SEE LISTING UNDER GREECE
14545 M1841 Type 1 "Snell" brass hilted yataghan bayonet. Rear ring assy. is not present. Catch mechanism is frozen. Blade and other steel components are rusty, pitted and in relic condition.
14641 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. Rare FZR manufacturer mark on the crossguard. Scabbard is PWH.
14687 SEDGELY bayonet with scabbard. Original M1892 Krag Type 1 scabbard was modified by shortening it and crimping an M1910 belt hook to it. The bayonet itself remains unsharpened and has several areas of medium pitting scattered about. The mortise slot is damaged and the bayonet will not mount to a rifle as a result. The only marking is serial number "254371" on the right ricasso.
14731 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. IMPERIAL manufacturer name on crossguard and VIZ maker on scabbard throat.
14779 Experimental T2 bayonet made by Hotpoint. Marked for test group A and dated 1944. Fullered blade version. MINT. The T2 bayonet experiment was to create a new bayonet for the M1 Garand that could be made from flat stock with minimal machining to produce a less expensive bayonet that could be manufactured more quickly. The program was abandoned in 1944 when it was clear the War would be over shortly so current production of the M1 bayonet was more than sufficient.
14800 No.5 Rolling Block LONG bayonet with scabbard. "REMINGTON ARMS Co. ILION. N. Y." in the fuller. Often identified as a French M1914 this example does not have the French serial number on the crossguard. These were used by many client States that bought Rolling Block rifles from Remington. There is an inspector's mark "H.P.S." on the left grip. I can find no record of this inspector in the literature on US inspectors but I strongly suspect it is because it is a State Militia inspector independent of the Federal armory system. The mark looks identical to US Inspection markings of the period. Blade remains unsharpened.
14824 M1892 Krag bayonet with type 2 scabbard. US 1903
14942 M1895 Krag CADET bayonet with ALL 3 scabbards. US and 1895 marked on the ricasso. 1 Scabbard is the all steel type with short bale belt hook. 1 scabbard is the leather tab belt loop type and is dented but functional. The other scabbard is the very rare first type with open belt hook. Grips retained with flush rivets. Blade is sharp but not ground. Minor damage to back of crossguard at the muzzle ring is shown in the pics and does not affect function. Only 250 made for the US Military Academy at West Point in 1895 and another 250 in 1900.
15006 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. BOC bayonet, BM Co. Scabbard.
15014 M1895 Lee-Navy bayonet with scabbard. Completely unmarked. Blade remains unsharpened. Grips are well worn with some wood loss which is visible in the pics. Scabbard leather is solid and stitching and fittings are tight.
15085 M8A1 scabbard only. BM Co. Used surplus condition with multiple coats of paint.
15191 M8 scabbard only. BM Co. Original M8 with short belt look khaki frog and no belt hook.
15279 M10 scabbard only. Black plastic.
15307 M1905 bayonet with rare DETROIT GASKET (aka Lazy S) M3 scabbard. UFH 1942. Bayonet is well marked and in good condition except for the edge at the tip having been kissed with a grinder on the left side only (see close up pic). The scabbard is exceptional for a Detroit Gasket.
15320 M1941 Johnson Bayonet with scabbard. Guaranteed original. Scabbard even
has the tip plug intact.
15386 M8 scabbard only converted to M8A1. BM Co.
15387 M8 scabbard only converted to M8A1. BM Co.
15388 M6 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard with leg tie. IMPERIAL with DAS stamp.
15442 M7 bayonet with M8A1 scabbard. MILPAR bayonet with WD scabbard with
steel tip. Blade has been sharpened but not ground.
15462 M1905 bayonet with M3 scabbard UFH 1943. M1905 bayonet production
ceased in April of 1943 in favor of the M1 bayonet so 1943 dated examples are
fewer than most of us realize. Bayonet is in exceptional condition and would be
almost impossible to upgrade. The scabbard is not so good. It has a big crack
right in the middle that goes almost all the way through. It is still attached
at the right edge and is in no danger of falling apart. It had an amateur repair
attempt when I got it. I have removed all the tape and adhesive but there are
traces of an even earlier repair attempt involving trying to glue the crack
shut. Still, it's original and covers the blade. Value here is in the
exceptional bayonet itself.
14389 M1900 cruciform conversion bayonet with scabbard (recycled M1895 Daudeteau converted to fit export pattern Mausers) that I believe may actually be a prototype. Rather than having the purpose made crossguard pinned neatly into place this one is made with a repurposed M1894 crossguard crudely brazed into place and the "pin" attaching the new hilt is set much farther back than previously discussed and is itself very crude looking. The serial number on the backstrap is 758 and is partially obscured by errant brazing slopped over it so was definitely applied to the hilt prior to the crossguard being attached. This leads me to SPECULATE that IF this is a prototype the hilt serial numbers were production numbers used for the hilt as a separate component rather than being a serial number for the whole bayonet. It certainly remains possible this is just an armoror's repair using a salvaged M1894 crossguard or even Bubba's work ALTHOUGH it's an awfully odd coincidence that Bubba just happened to find an Uruguayan M1894 crossguard to use. The scabbard is unmarked and I believe it is the original Daudeteau scabbard. The blade has some minor pitting and lots of staining. The forward 1/3 of the blade is bent up a bit but it inserts and withdraws from the scabbard with no trouble at all.
14738 M1908 bayonet with scabbard. Blade remains unsharpened.
14873 M1900 Brass hilted cruciform bayonet with scabbard.
15123 M1908 bayonet made by Haenel and faintly marked GCH on the ricasso.
15202 M937 bayonet with matching scabbard. Czech contract VZ24 bayonet made for Uruguay in 1937. All original finish intact. (Buffed bright pommel, bead blasted crossguard and blade and blued scabbard.) Blade remains unsharpened and overall condition is very good. Pommel butt and frog hook marking match. Uruguayan sunburst mark on crossguard and frog hook as well.
15369 Former M1866 Chasspot bayonet shortened to 480mm OAL and blade straightened. KIRSCHBAUM Kight's Head maker mark on ricasso. Absolutely no French markings anywhere but the bayonet still fits the Chasspot and Gras rifles and will NOT mount on a Rolling Block rifle. I found an anecdotal reference to these being a Belgian conversion for Uruguay for use with a Belgian pinfire revolving rifle with a suggested nomenclature of M1857. The earlier model date than the original bayonet seems pretty shaky to me but that's the best info I have found.
The VATICAN (See PAPAL STATES)
14067 M1900 bayonet with scabbard. Quillon removed. This is the Belgian M89 style bayonet that fits the GEW71/84 Mausers that Venezuela purchased from Germany circa 1900. Blade remains unsharpened and overall condition is very good.
14219 M1900 bayonet with scabbard. Quillon removed. This is the Belgian M89 style bayonet that fits the GEW71/84 Mausers that Venezuela purchased from Germany circa 1900. Blade remains unsharpened. Scabbard is missing the throat retaining screw.
YUGOSLAVIA (See also SERBIA)
14046 M24b SHORT MORTISE SLOT bayonet with scabbard. Converted from a former German S98/05 bayonet made by RICH A HERDER. Blade was narrowed, a new crossguard added with a muzzle ring, new Yugo grips added, flashguard deleted and the mortise slot was shortened. Yugoslavia possessed and used the Mexican contract M1912 rifles with short bayonet lugs and that is what this fascinating conversion bayonet fits now. (The Mexican rifles made by Steyr just before WWI were never delivered and were pressed into Austrian service during the war and given to Yugoslavia afterwards.) Scabbard is missing the ball tip.
14066 M1899C (M1915) double edged bayonet. SEE LISTING UNDER SERBIA
14360 M95M bayonet with scabbard. Version converted from an RG1888/90 bayonet. SN 111820 on the butt of the pommel. The scabbard is pretty beat up and does not conform to known scabbards for this variant and is probably not correct although it fits well.
14422 M95M bayonet with scabbard. Version converted from an RG1888/90 bayonet. Missing locking catch assembly. OEWG ricasso mark
14516 M1924 bayonet with scabbard and frog. BT3 ricasso mark with an unusual round mark on the other side that is not readable. Letter T on crossguard with sn 1733 on the other side. Scabbard has a new tip installed and was painted gloss black. Blade sharpened but not ground. Left grip is broken and missing wood and has HI carved in what is left.
15090 M95M bayonet with scabbard. Former Austrian M1895 Steyr bayonet reworked to M95M by enlarging the MRID, otherwise unaltered. OEWG still remains on the ricasso. Scabbard is BT3 marked/made replacement with non matching serial number. Early BT3 production that still was produced with the ball finial tip.
15145 M1924 bayonet with matching scabbard. There are no ricasso markings at all. Blade sharpened but not ground. Tang extension type pommel.
15285 M1924b "Mexican Model" bayonet with scabbard. BT3 Late production bayonet for undelivered Mexican contract M1914 rifles used by Austria in WWI then ceded to Yugoslavia as war reparations. Blade has been sharpened but not ground. Scabbard has several small and shallow dents but function is not affected.
15344 M1956 SMG bayonet with scabbard.
15389 M95M bayonet made from RG88/90
15468 M24/80 bayonet with scabbard. Blade remains unsharpened.
BT3 ricasso and scabbard marks. SN 6190 on the butt of the pommel. Late
production bayonet for use on obsolete M1880 Mauser-Milanovic rifles that
remained in reserve service. Blade remains unsharpened. Catch button sticks
badly but does function with enough pressure applied.
OTHER, ODDBALL AND UNIDENTIFIED
13823 Unidentified Khaki web frog somewhat like an Indian made No.4. Enfield frog. Jim Maddox felt it may be Middle Eastern. It has a floating retention loop unlike the Indian frogs and is large enough to fit just about anything.
14059 P1853 triform socket bayonet. No British markings. Only marks are on the ricasso face. "J.S" and what is either a letter M with curved strokes or an Osmanlica (Turkish) number 4. I'm leaning toward the Turkish ID but am not confident enough to list it positively as Turkish.
15146 French Style M1842 Clone yataghan bayonet made by PDL. Has a crown over R and a crown over H on the right ricasso. Grip brass is visible in the face of the crossguard. MRID is 24mm. Locking distance is 88.5mm. Overall condition is very good. Blade remains unsharpened and fee of any nicks, rust or pitting.
15200 Cast Iron toy bayonet with scabbard. Single piece casting with rounded tip fullered blade and open lateral mortise slot is nickel plated with wooden grips affixed by a single pin. MRID is 17mm and there is no provision on the bayonet to lock onto whatever toy rifle it fits. The scabbard is made of thin brown roughed out leather and has most of the stitching around the tip end popped. There is also a small hole worn through on the back near the tip, a pin hole through the frog and the top of the belt loop is worn and beginning to tear open on the right side Some people have identified them as training bayonets but the flimsy construction of the scabbard screams "toy" to me. These appear from time to time and I've heard speculation they were from the US, Canada or Norway but have never found any definitive information about them.
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